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Garry Beattie

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:50 am
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One question that came into my mind with regards to the number of By runs
that were made at Englishtown when the Kalitta cars did not compete.

As it happened, the qualifying times ensured that a number of solo passes
were made, which meant that there were no By runs in the second round.

But what would have happened had 2 Kalitta cars, through their qualifying
times, been matched up in round 1?

With neither car showing, who would have been declared the car to move onto
the next round? Or would they both have received a foul and no one move
forward?

I know it's a weird question, and probably the timing of it is not that
great, but the thought did pop into my head while watching the racing
coverage (which we seen here yesterday (Saturday) morning).


Garry
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Wayne Jones

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:50 am
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"Garry Beattie" wrote in message

> One question that came into my mind with regards to the number of By runs
> that were made at Englishtown when the Kalitta cars did not compete.
>
> As it happened, the qualifying times ensured that a number of solo passes
> were made, which meant that there were no By runs in the second round.
>
> But what would have happened had 2 Kalitta cars, through their qualifying
> times, been matched up in round 1?
>
> With neither car showing, who would have been declared the car to move
> onto the next round? Or would they both have received a foul and no one
> move forward?
>
> I know it's a weird question, and probably the timing of it is not that
> great, but the thought did pop into my head while watching the racing
> coverage (which we seen here yesterday (Saturday) morning).
>
>
> Garry
> Bad spellers of the world...... Untie!!
>
Garry,
The two no-shows in round one that race together go on to round two. That
makes a bye run for round two. This sometimes happens in sportsman classes.
Wayne

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Garry Beattie

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:18 am
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"Wayne Jones" wrote in message

>
> The two no-shows in round one that race together go on to round two. That
> makes a bye run for round two. This sometimes happens in sportsman
> classes.
> Wayne

Both cars go on??

effectively that makes 3 cars (the 2 no shows and the legitimate round 2
car) scheduled for the same run in round 2????

Is that correct or did I misunderstand you?

Garry
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 2:18 am
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"Garry Beattie" wrote in message

>
> "Wayne Jones" wrote in message
>
>>
>> The two no-shows in round one that race together go on to round two. That
>> makes a bye run for round two. This sometimes happens in sportsman
>> classes.
>> Wayne
>
> Both cars go on??
>
> effectively that makes 3 cars (the 2 no shows and the legitimate round 2
> car) scheduled for the same run in round 2????
>
> Is that correct or did I misunderstand you?
>
> Garry
>
>
Garry,
I should say a bye run. You have 2 no shows or 2 bye runs in round 1 against
each other. In round 2 you have a single no show or bye run. The bye runs or
no shows means they are out of the race from the ladder that is set up for
race day. So bye or no show means it is a single that means they are not
there and do not advance.I hope this helps explain the question. This also
takes place if there is not 16 cars for the race.
Wayne
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:36 am
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"Wayne Jones" wrote in message

>
> I should say a bye run. You have 2 no shows or 2 bye runs in round 1
> against each other. In round 2 you have a single no show or bye run. The
> bye runs or no shows means they are out of the race from the ladder that
> is set up for race day. So bye or no show means it is a single that means
> they are not there and do not advance.I hope this helps explain the
> question. This also takes place if there is not 16 cars for the race.
> Wayne

G'day Wayne.

Thanks for clarifying it and I understand what you are saying. Thanks.

However what I am asking is what happens if, in round one you have 2 no
shows scheduled to race together. Obviously neither shows so neither wins?

So the winners spot in the next round (round 2) would also be a no show.

Who is credited with that position out of the 2 cars that did not show in
round 1?

As I understand it, there would be points to be earned here if you were to
progress to round 2, so who would be put down as the car competing in round
2 or would they not have any car listed?

Sorry if the question sounds dumb but I was just trying to work it out.

best regards

Garry
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Arty

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:32 pm
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The bye wins and moves to the next round.

As for points, both no shows get first round lose points, thats assuming
NHRA still allocate lose points if you no show the round same with lose
money. I know in Aus unless you front the round you dont get the money,
but you still get the points.

But in Aus they still have alternates.



Garry Beattie wrote:
> "Wayne Jones" wrote in message
>
>
>>I should say a bye run. You have 2 no shows or 2 bye runs in round 1
>>against each other. In round 2 you have a single no show or bye run. The
>>bye runs or no shows means they are out of the race from the ladder that
>>is set up for race day. So bye or no show means it is a single that means
>>they are not there and do not advance.I hope this helps explain the
>>question. This also takes place if there is not 16 cars for the race.
>> Wayne
>
>
> G'day Wayne.
>
> Thanks for clarifying it and I understand what you are saying. Thanks.
>
> However what I am asking is what happens if, in round one you have 2 no
> shows scheduled to race together. Obviously neither shows so neither wins?
>
> So the winners spot in the next round (round 2) would also be a no show.
>
> Who is credited with that position out of the 2 cars that did not show in
> round 1?
>
> As I understand it, there would be points to be earned here if you were to
> progress to round 2, so who would be put down as the car competing in round
> 2 or would they not have any car listed?
>
> Sorry if the question sounds dumb but I was just trying to work it out.
>
> best regards
>
> Garry
>
>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:54 pm
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"Arty" wrote in message

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>
> But in Aus they still have alternates.
>

Unfortunately in Aus we do not have enough cars to afford the luxury of
having alternates. At least in the Nitro category anyway!!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:24 pm
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"Garry Beattie" wrote in message

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> "Arty" wrote in message
>
>>
>>
>> But in Aus they still have alternates.
>>
>
> Unfortunately in Aus we do not have enough cars to afford the luxury of
> having alternates. At least in the Nitro category anyway!!
>
>
>
Garry,
This should clear it up for ya. No shows get qualifying points only in first
round and after that the 1 that races gets the points.
Wayne
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:50 am
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"Wayne Jones" wrote in message

> Garry,
> This should clear it up for ya. No shows get qualifying points only in
> first round and after that the 1 that races gets the points.
> Wayne

Thanks Wayne.

Garry
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